tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382308018846185973.post3173472463326177899..comments2024-03-27T03:29:38.124-07:00Comments on The Infertility Therapist: Infertility and third party reproduction in the public spotlight: psychological implicationsLisa Rouff, Ph.D.http://www.blogger.com/profile/08061785161706265766noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382308018846185973.post-12009157805943435172019-02-06T23:14:40.127-08:002019-02-06T23:14:40.127-08:00I love Your post so much!! So proud of you:)
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My first time to your ...Dropping by for ICLW week. <br />My first time to your blog.<br />I have found that celebrities dealing w/IF have opened the communication with my parents, such as Giuliana and Bill, and Celine Dion. Then it has also brought negative comments or insensitive "joking" from others, such as saying, "I hope you don't end up like Octomom" when they first hear of my IF journey. <br />I think that if a celebrity wants to disclose their journey we should welcome it. For example, when it involves 3rd party parenting, it's hoped that they don't think we are so naive to think that a 40+ year old women can have twins so easily all the time without assistance.<br />I agree with you the more open it is, the more public we make it, the closer it gets to being addressed, especially as far as insurance coverage goes. It's not taboo to discuss so many other health conditions that get funding, research and are covered so it's time for IF too!<br />Look forward to following your blog.<br />The C's<br />ICLW #161The C'shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16636350640661076531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382308018846185973.post-26862498559322974672011-01-23T18:47:40.651-08:002011-01-23T18:47:40.651-08:00Thanks for all of the wonderful comments! I think...Thanks for all of the wonderful comments! I think I will try to address the issue of disclosure in general...coming soon!Lisa Rouff, Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08061785161706265766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382308018846185973.post-22658175916323661652011-01-22T12:58:02.783-08:002011-01-22T12:58:02.783-08:00In terms of how celebrities using ART or adoption ...In terms of how celebrities using ART or adoption affects the rest of us, in my experience even families that are supportive of the celebrities' decisions don't seem to realize how "unreal" reality TV/celebrity life is. Guiliana and Bill excepted, we don't see the struggle, just the outcome. Look at how easy Angelina Jolie makes it seem to just go to Africa and pick up a baby. We don't know how many failed cycles Kidman and Urban had or how many surrogates they met with. Not to mention how much easier the process is when you have the financial resources of celebrities.Missyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10030801926318157162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382308018846185973.post-78805925552158109062011-01-22T01:50:19.708-08:002011-01-22T01:50:19.708-08:00ICLW-this is a really interesting post! I have bee...ICLW-this is a really interesting post! I have been reading a discussion on this issue all week at another blog. Personally I hate the camp that says "she's being selfish/wants to keep her figure/ surrogacy is just wrong." The majority of these people, but not all, haven't been through IF but choose to hold these extremely strong views regardless and don't like to try and consider the other side, i.e, Nicole has already tried IVF and it failed after Sunday, the chances of it working were likely low, she may not have wanted Sunday to be without a sibling.<br />That said I am only half "out" IRL. Some know, others don't. When people who know me well enough make a crack about how I got pregnant/my sex life, I always explain this is an IVF pregnancy, which shuts them up!!<br />Thanks for the discussion on this issue. take care :)AnxiousMummyto3https://www.blogger.com/profile/13249605078664682478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382308018846185973.post-81912791599560774912011-01-21T18:31:20.463-08:002011-01-21T18:31:20.463-08:00I would be interested in your point of view about ...I would be interested in your point of view about whether we are hypocritical to expect celebrities to be open about any IF/ART experiences when so many of us aren't?<br /><br />ICLW #59Kristinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10791317184998122691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382308018846185973.post-73674331791427681972011-01-21T10:15:22.309-08:002011-01-21T10:15:22.309-08:00@field of dreams--thanks for the suggestion. I th...@field of dreams--thanks for the suggestion. I think that cultural considerations definitely come into play in ART, and I will have to work on that.<br /><br />Thanks to all for your insightful comments!Lisa Rouff, Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08061785161706265766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382308018846185973.post-63972499605273340652011-01-20T20:43:13.667-08:002011-01-20T20:43:13.667-08:00I applaude some celebrities for being open about t...I applaude some celebrities for being open about their infertility, treatments and miracle endings. Although others expose themselves to the world and expect acclaim and fortune yet when it comes to being honest about their IF journey they hide in their mansions. I experienced 6 years of IF and I know that during that time I picked up a dark stranger to remind me of it. However what saved me from that dark hole was my open honesty of my issues and treatments. A relative of mine whose husband had male factor infertility and they underwent IVF/ICSI and were successful with thier fresh transfer were never open about their situation because of the stigma and gossip associated with our cultural background (Greek-Australian) Maybe your next topic - does culture dictate ART?<br /><br />ICLW #126a field of dreamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11659800536648397033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382308018846185973.post-48738175516034977082011-01-20T20:41:56.378-08:002011-01-20T20:41:56.378-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.a field of dreamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11659800536648397033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382308018846185973.post-88993483321170836692011-01-20T17:25:18.166-08:002011-01-20T17:25:18.166-08:00There seems to be a growing trend toward nosing in...There seems to be a growing trend toward nosing into famous people's lives: it has become a sport! Of course, how these famous people create families is also subject to public scrutiny. I think that it's too bad that celebrity has been elevated to the status of godliness, and as a result, people get fixated on finding flaws in celebrities to restore the sense that these people might be human. It's not just ART, it's anything. Everyone's on a witch hunt about the stars. Have you looked at tabloid magazines lately? Insanity. <br /><br />I am sometimes tempted to make a facile criticism about a celebrity's life choices (and sometimes give into that temptation), so I can see why it happens. People find a chink in the glitzy armor and go for it. It's just too bad that ART has to be dragged into it. Not good for our cause, here. It further disseminates misinformation about infertility and ART.Augustahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01257478728772841767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382308018846185973.post-26341655286665219412011-01-20T14:33:05.546-08:002011-01-20T14:33:05.546-08:00Adoption as we all know is not a cure for infetili...Adoption as we all know is not a cure for infetility.My personal views on the ART industry are not appropriately repeated here.For the record our Nic has had long standing infertility problems.<br />Time for more empathy and compassion.Vonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17421069895155350144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8382308018846185973.post-21331057042302814102011-01-20T13:29:11.211-08:002011-01-20T13:29:11.211-08:00There was a really long and interesting debate on ...There was a really long and interesting debate on this in a blog called mamamia.com.au over the whole thing. it started off as a congratulations but invited people to comment. What shocked me was that even though I knew people felt this way about IVF / surrogacy actually having people verbalise that some people are not supposed to be parents and we should just deal with it really hurt me. I also got hurt by the repeated comments that we should just adopt, as if that was so easy. I am about to embark on IVF # 2 after having one failed fresh and two failed frozen. We have unexplained infertility and the whole journey has been incredibly stressful but this time we are telling nobody (apart from our internet friends!) because we don't want to have the added pressures of everyone's opinion on IVF affecting us. The increased coverage has made everyone mini experts in their eyes and it is their uninformed opinions that hurt the most! Anyway lets hope after this next round I will be the one having the last laugh :)Chonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11078580707826544482noreply@blogger.com